For you "Gun Control" issue fellas

[Keith@AimLow]

Whether you agree or not, it's an interesting lesson in history.
> Something to think about...The guy on the street first?
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> In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control.
> From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents,
> unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
> exterminated.
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> In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915
> to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend
> themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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> Germany established gun control in 1938 and from
> 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews and others who were
> unable to defend themselves were rounded up and
> exterminated.
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> China established gun control in 1935. From 1948
> to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to
> defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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> Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From
> 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to
> defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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> Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971
> to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend
> themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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> Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From
> 1975 to 1977, one million 'educated' people, unable
> to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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> Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in
> the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
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> It has now been 12 months since gun owners in
> Australia were forced by new law to surrender
> 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their
> own government, a program costing Australia
> taxpayers more than $500 million dollars.
>
> The first year results are now in:
> Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent
> Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent
> Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent
> (yes, 44 percent!)
> In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with
> firearms are now up 300 percent.
> (Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned
> them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still
> possess their guns!)
> While figures over the previous 25 years showed a
> steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this
> has changed drastically upward in the past 12
> months, since the criminals now are guaranteed that
> their prey is unarmed.
>
> There has also been a dramatic increase in
> break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY.
> Australian politicians are at a loss to explain
> how public safety has decreased, after such
> monumental effort and expense was expended in
> "successfully ridding Australian society of guns."
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> The Australian experience and the other historical
> facts above prove it.
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> You won't see this data on the American evening
> news or hear our president, governors or other
> politicians disseminating this information.
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> Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives
> and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only
> the law-abiding citizens.
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> Take note my fellow Americans.....before it's too
> late!
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> The next time someone talks in favor of gun
> control, please remind them of this history lesson
>
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> With guns, we are citizens.
> Without them, we are subjects.
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> If you value your freedom, Please spread this
> anti-gun control message to all of your friends.

[semodeerhunter]

Great post!

[DoniphanRedneck]

I"ve got this in my profile....Know guns, know peace and safety. No guns, no peace no safety. ...

DoniphanRedneck

[Center Punch]

Is this the first time you've seen this MoBuck?

[Chairman]

I once had a comparison of people killed by doctor's versus people killed by guns, posted on my personal website. My doctor just so happened to check out my homepage, and our doctor/patient "relationship" soured immediately.



I guess he couldn't handle the truth...

[DoniphanRedneck]

I agree with chairman...Doc's kill more people then guns do...the (sp?) statistics say so.. So should we outlaw doc's too??

DoniphanRedneck

[sharps4590]

It's just a sad commentary that the law abiding are treated as the law breaking. I wish I could find the article I had that described how, as a government got bigger, it attempted to find more laws to enact to provide more law breakers so the government could coalesce more power within its hands. It falls hand in glove with what we are experienceing now.

Vic

[TTTim]

How about the Guy in Lemay capping the three bad guys with a .22. The Sherriff said no charges will be filed........ Whos your daddy?
TTTim

[Chairman]

How about the Guy in Lemay capping the three bad guys with a .22.

TTTim

[JBMan]

excellent, HCI(Handgun Control Inc.) can read this and shove that anti gun campaign up their azzes.

[Keith@AimLow]

Mike,

I am pretty sure I saw this a little while back but I just received it from someone and thought I would post it up for those interested.

[sptsman]

Ok, we need a dissenter here. I'll volunteer...

This is just another cheap play on the emotions and heartstrings of folks who are either uneducated or not smart enough to see the differences between those instances and the current situation in the USA today. First and foremost, none of those countries were ever a true democracy, with the type of freedom we have today. As a result, the changes in gun control laws were minor modifications at most. It is disingenuous to present the information as it is presented. These people did not previously have unfettered access to any weapon they wanted to possess. To assume they did and then all of the guns were rounded up and taken from the common man is just inaccurate.

These comparisons may have some, very small, lesson in them but they certainly are not good analogies to our current situation. We have a 200+ year old democracy with over 275 million Americans enjoying freedom for the longest sustained period of time in recorded history. In addition, we have God knows how many guns already in the general population. Furthermore, we have a constititional right to keep and bear arms. None of these factors were in play in the examples listed above. As a result, I think the examples are poor and may give the anti-gun crowd great ammo (pun intended) against the gun rights people. They can simply point out the obvious flaws in the analogies, then move right in to the reasons why we need more control in our country today!

Before you all start to cut and paste this post and try to refute my points with windy ramblings about the constitution and our "rights", let's get a few things perfectly clear. First, I am very pro gun. I don't support many gun control laws or issues and I firmly believe we should be allowed to keep and bear arms. However, I think it is just plain foolish to think we don't need any restrictions on who can own and carry and use what weapons. Even the most simple minded can understand that we can't have the average joe toting around RPG's or flame thowers. What about armor piercing bullets? Should they be on the market? With these things in mind, there have to be some rules and/or laws restricting weapons. The question simply becomes where to draw the line... That is the current agument and it will rage on until all of our weapons are taken away or all of the anti's are shot by the gun rights people...

I really compare this type of post to the anti's using cheap ploys to pull on the heartstrings of the undecided. They make a big deal out of every incident that involves an accidental shooting or crimes committed with a gun but seem to forget about the instances where guns saved lives or kept the victim from actually becoming a victim. Are we the same as them? Are we going to lie and misrepresent facts? If so, fine. Keep posting stuff like this and we can all collectively chant RAH,RAH together. I would just like to think our position is stronger that that and we can win the hearts and minds of the undecided with sound arguments and good facts.

There, that oughtta get 'em goin'...

[Great White Hunter]

@ Sptsman

[TOS]

My feelings exactly Sptsman.

[Center Punch]

Hey Keith. What do you think about the information you posted?