There Craig has posted a link to all his results, or at least those he has uploaded.
here are a few more links.
This one is the test with the updated/redesigned head.
http://forum.hunting.net/asppg/tm.asp?m=333196&mpage=1&key=ultimate񑖌
This is link from another guy describing the customer service you can expect from Rocket. I am currently shooting the Rocket Steel Head and can vouch for comments made in this thread. I too had the same problem with the ferrule being too short to engage the threads of my insert. I got no help. Rocket customer service is non existent.
http://forum.hunting.net/asppg/tm.asp?m=314344&mpage=1&key=rocket񌯨
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here is the text from my first link. The results for the Ultimate Steel are not listed on the link that Craig gave you but it does give a nice list of the testing and scoring procedure that he follows.
Posted by 5 Shot, www.huntingbbs.com
Rocket ultimate steel 100 grain/ Black ferule
Accuracy: 5points
Cutting diameter: 1point
Blades: 3 points
Plywood: 5 points
Tire: 3 points
Steel drum: 5 points
Non-mechanical head 2 points
Total Score 24 with a blade sharpness rating of A
This is my third attempt at the 100grain Rocket Ultimate steel. The first to times I found blade loss to be a major problem. These heads had the silver colored ferules. The Improved heads now have the black colored ferules. It would appear rocket has addressed the problem with blade loss to some degree anyway. I found accuracy to be excellent. The one thing these little heads will do is shoot. Blade sharpness is outstanding as well. In the first set of heads I found the blades fit loosely in the ferule and even had one come out in a soft foam target. The new heads have a much tighter fit, so much so that you may have a little trouble fitting them together. This I think is a small price to pay for better blade retention. The first thing I did was shoot into the tire. I lost one blade of the three. This is a big improvement over the first heads I tested, which lost all three blades. In the plywood the head held onto the blades just fine, and completely penetrated the board. The steel drum still proved too much though. The head fully penetrated both sides but lost all three blades in the process. The blades made it through the front side, but were ripped out when they hit the back wall. This is somewhat different than the first set of tests where the blades were broken off before the head made it through the first side.
It seems that Rocket did take notice of the problems with the first run of 100grain heads and took some corrective measures. I am glad to see this happen. While the head is not perfect, and it could be improved even more my strengthening the tabs at the back of the blades, I feel confident that it would hold together on most game. The steel drum is an extreme tests, and one that many heads do very well on, but it is probably the least relevant to ?real world hunting conditions?.
As a side not if you look at the steel drum score and compare it with my rating system you will see I gave the head a five. In the first run of tests I couldn?t in good conscious, give it a 5 when the head not only lost blades in the drum, but everything else it was shot into. This time around that is what the rating system calls for and since the head did better overall I felt better about giving it the 5, especially since this time it at least made it through the first side with the blades intact.
Bottom line, while there is still, room for improvement, the black ferule heads are a much better product and one I feel confident would perform under most conditions.
This test was for the 100 grn black ferule head only. I recently tested the 75 grn version and found it had the same problems as the first run of silver colored heads. I believe the problem is the severe angle of the blades as well as the blade " tab" s breaking off. I thouhgt I should include this for those considering the 75 grn head.
Posted by 5 Shot, www.huntingbbs.com
Rocket ultimate steel 100 grain/ Black ferule
Accuracy: 5points
Cutting diameter: 1point
Blades: 3 points
Plywood: 5 points
Tire: 3 points
Steel drum: 5 points
Non-mechanical head 2 points
Total Score 24 with a blade sharpness rating of A
This is my third attempt at the 100grain Rocket Ultimate steel. The first to times I found blade loss to be a major problem. These heads had the silver colored ferules. The Improved heads now have the black colored ferules. It would appear rocket has addressed the problem with blade loss to some degree anyway. I found accuracy to be excellent. The one thing these little heads will do is shoot. Blade sharpness is outstanding as well. In the first set of heads I found the blades fit loosely in the ferule and even had one come out in a soft foam target. The new heads have a much tighter fit, so much so that you may have a little trouble fitting them together. This I think is a small price to pay for better blade retention. The first thing I did was shoot into the tire. I lost one blade of the three. This is a big improvement over the first heads I tested, which lost all three blades. In the plywood the head held onto the blades just fine, and completely penetrated the board. The steel drum still proved too much though. The head fully penetrated both sides but lost all three blades in the process. The blades made it through the front side, but were ripped out when they hit the back wall. This is somewhat different than the first set of tests where the blades were broken off before the head made it through the first side.
It seems that Rocket did take notice of the problems with the first run of 100grain heads and took some corrective measures. I am glad to see this happen. While the head is not perfect, and it could be improved even more my strengthening the tabs at the back of the blades, I feel confident that it would hold together on most game. The steel drum is an extreme tests, and one that many heads do very well on, but it is probably the least relevant to ?real world hunting conditions?.
As a side not if you look at the steel drum score and compare it with my rating system you will see I gave the head a five. In the first run of tests I couldn?t in good conscious, give it a 5 when the head not only lost blades in the drum, but everything else it was shot into. This time around that is what the rating system calls for and since the head did better overall I felt better about giving it the 5, especially since this time it at least made it through the first side with the blades intact.
Bottom line, while there is still, room for improvement, the black ferule heads are a much better product and one I feel confident would perform under most conditions.
This test was for the 100 grn black ferule head only. I recently tested the 75 grn version and found it had the same problems as the first run of silver colored heads. I believe the problem is the severe angle of the blades as well as the blade " tab" s breaking off. I thouhgt I should include this for those considering the 75 grn head.
"Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day"-Me
"Woe be the game the Omen haunts"-Mathews
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Okay, I have an old tire and I'm on a vacation day also, So we'll just see what the 75's will do. 
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Thanks for the info... let me know how the ol tire holds up and what brand you are shooting through. I'm in the market for new tires as well.
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Too funny.BTW => is anyone as scared as I am to use this Graemlin ? Just what is this little guy doing ?
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I think he is screwing the backend of that little guy...
If so they need
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If so they need
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Actually I thought the green dude was Smittys wife and Smitty was the yellow dude. She is giving him three kinds of hell while he is looking the other way and then he is just as confused as ever because he has no clue as to why he just got his ass chewed out.
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All right here's what I found,First shot was at around 15 yrds. due to the fact that shooting a broadhead tipped arrow at rubber did not appeal to me in the least. 
Second shot was closer. Problems that I observed was that the blades after the plywood and the tire are REALY REALLY dull, But they are all still there. Now I'm not trying to prove a point or defend the heads ,But curiosity has the better of me now and I want to know. I have two 55 gallon drums but their my homemade smoker and I'm refusing at this point to shoot any arrows through them. I will find one somewhere else for that part of the test. But the way I see it is, A steel drum is alot of chit for any head.
Second shot was closer. Problems that I observed was that the blades after the plywood and the tire are REALY REALLY dull, But they are all still there. Now I'm not trying to prove a point or defend the heads ,But curiosity has the better of me now and I want to know. I have two 55 gallon drums but their my homemade smoker and I'm refusing at this point to shoot any arrows through them. I will find one somewhere else for that part of the test. But the way I see it is, A steel drum is alot of chit for any head.
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I'm just glad to hear you were able to hit the tire from 15 yds.
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the head may make it through, but your arrow would probly shatter like hot glass touching cold water..
Sounds like some tuff heads there..
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Sounds like some tuff heads there..
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I would say things are adding up now concerning Rocket. Big problems with the heads + non-existent customer service = Rocket being out of business.
Say what you want about Muzzy, but you will not find better customer service. MOCraig could send that head in he had fail and he would get a least a new pack back. Also, the steel drum is Muzzy's QC checkpoint. One out of every lot is shot into one. If it don't make it thru intact, the lot fails. This goes on every day. I have seen it personally.
Say what you want about Muzzy, but you will not find better customer service. MOCraig could send that head in he had fail and he would get a least a new pack back. Also, the steel drum is Muzzy's QC checkpoint. One out of every lot is shot into one. If it don't make it thru intact, the lot fails. This goes on every day. I have seen it personally.