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'Bout that time of year...............

Posted: September 21st, 2004, 7:44 pm
by coyotewhacker
Tried to fire up the Johnny Stewart caller a couple of days ago and it wouldn't work. Opened up the case and found a large gob of hardened mud where a dirt dauber had built a nest inside the cassette player. Cleaned it up and it still wouldn't work. Found the problem this morning: a wire had come unsoldered in the speaker wire plug. Repaired that, and the old gal is singing like the fat lady at the opera.
Tonight is as good a time as any to ease back to my favorite calling area and put out the Rigor Rabbit, fire up the cassette player with a terrified cottontail tape, and get ready for fall coyote action. Image Image Image

Re: 'Bout that time of year...............

Posted: September 23rd, 2004, 1:04 am
by DoniphanRedneck
I"ve got a question... This time of year do you hunt them at night or in the daytime? I've heard that there is a time when you hunt then in the night and then another where you hunt them in the day. How does it go?

DoniphanRedneck

Re: 'Bout that time of year...............

Posted: September 23rd, 2004, 5:57 pm
by coyotewhacker
You can hunt coyotes year round EXCEPT during spring turkey season. Coyote hunting is not permitted when turkey season is open. I have interpreted that to mean that spring turkey season closes each day at noon or 1pm, whichever. If turkey season is closed for the day, coyote hunting must be open. Better check with your local Mr. Greenjeans on that fine point, however. They have lied to me before.
You can also hunt coyotes at night...you just can't use a light or electronic caller. The printed rules on light use by landowners on their own property and what MCD gaestapo storm troopers say are two entirely different interpretations. I was taught to read common English when I was in the first grade. Apparently the people who write the MDC books never had that skill taught to them. When an official department publication says (referring to the use of lights at night for hunting)"the above DOES NOT APPLY TO LANDOWNERS WHILE HUNTING ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY. You would think that a normal reasonable person would take that to mean that you can hunt coyotes at night on your own property with a light.If I could afford the fine, I would make a test case of it in court and try to force MDC to clarify what they spew out for the taxpayers who pay their salaries.

Re: 'Bout that time of year...............

Posted: September 23rd, 2004, 7:08 pm
by Tigerhaze
CW-



I did a little research, and the CSR (Code of State Regulations) are a little more clear and are the actual regulations enforced in court. The little color booklets are a summary which are not necessarily legally correct (and are disclaimed as such I believe).



This is taken from the Secretary of State website, who is the keeper of codified laws. I have taken the applicable excerpt. It can be read in entirety at:



www.sos.mo.gov/adrules/csr/current/3csr/3c10-7.pdf



"3 CSR 10-7.410 Hunting Methods

PURPOSE: This rule prescribes the methods

by which wildlife may be hunted.

(1) Wildlife may be hunted and taken only in

accordance with the following:

(B) Artificial Light. No person shall throw

or cast the rays of a spotlight, headlight or

other artificial light on any highway or roadway,

whether public or private, or in any

field, woodland or forest for the purpose of

spotting, locating or attempting to take or

hunt any game animal, except raccoons or

other furbearing animals when treed with the

aid of dogs, while having in possession or

control, either singly or as one (1) of a group

of persons, any firearm, bow or other implement

whereby game could be killed.

(L) Electronic Calls. Electronic calls may

be used to pursue and take crows and furbearers,

but without the aid of an artificial light or

night vision equipment."



So according to this you could use the electronic calls at night, just not a light. Hope this helps, or at least makes things clearer.

Re: 'Bout that time of year...............

Posted: September 23rd, 2004, 7:13 pm
by Tigerhaze
This has also been excerpted from the same website:

"3 CSR 10-7.450 Furbearers: Hunting Seasons,
Methods
PURPOSE: This rule establishes the seasons
and methods for hunting furbearers.
...Coyotes may be taken by hunting, and pelts
and carcasses may be possessed, transported
and sold in any numbers throughout the year;
except that coyotes may not be chased, pursued
or taken during daylight hours from
April 1 through the day prior to the beginning
of the prescribed spring turkey hunting season,
and may not be chased, pursued or taken
through the prescribed spring turkey hunting
season, and no furbearers may be chased,
pursued or taken during daylight hours with
the aid of dogs from November 1 through the
prescribed November portion of the firearms
deer hunting season, during any extended
firearms deer hunting season in deer management
units open to hunting or with firearms
from a boat at night. The dens or nests of
furbearers shall not be molested or destroyed.
No person shall accept payment for furbearers
taken by another."

Re: 'Bout that time of year...............

Posted: September 24th, 2004, 10:55 am
by DoniphanRedneck
Maybe once I figer out how everything goes it wont be so hard to understand lol... takes time takes time. Thanks for all the rules though.

DoniphanRedneck

Now all I gota do is get my gun payed for.

Re: 'Bout that time of year...............

Posted: September 24th, 2004, 11:06 am
by Rafe Hollister
Maybe you can pick up a part-time job as reporter for the Doniphan Newspaper. Excellent communication skills are a must.

Re: 'Bout that time of year...............

Posted: September 24th, 2004, 11:40 am
by DoniphanRedneck
I am looking for a job but I don't think my communication skills are up to par for that job. Image

DoniphanRedneck

Re: 'Bout that time of year...............

Posted: September 24th, 2004, 12:28 pm
by coyotewhacker
TH....last year the rules said you could hunt coyotes during firearms deer season, but you had to have a valid, unfilled deer tag in your possession if stopped.
I also discovered that hauling my bass boat out the pasture makes a piss poor hunting blind, so I stopped the practice altogether. I've never encountered a coyote out on the lake or in a river at night while in the boat, but apparently it must be a serious problem that MDC spent many hours and lots of dollars to include that provision in the code. By the time a coyote out my way has encountered a 150 grain .30 caliber hollowpoint bullet from a .308, it's not much of a furbearer any more anyway. Mostly a piece here, and a large chunk there. The adolescents from this spring's litters are now out on their own, and they are S T U P I D !
It's almost laughable when they come charging in to almost any kind of call. I have at least 4 or 5 separate packs within a mile of the house, so there's a lot of whacking before deer season opens. Y'all have fun too, now, ya hear. Image Image Image Image

Re: 'Bout that time of year...............

Posted: September 24th, 2004, 8:32 pm
by Tigerhaze
CW-

I don't thin hunting them during deer season has changed. It just says you can't use dogs.

I know, these laws are so confusing they make an inaccurate booklet to muddy the waters further. Yet innocence of the law is no excuse to them! Image

Re: 'Bout that time of year...............

Posted: October 3rd, 2004, 5:32 pm
by bigdogjr71
i always wanted to hunt coyote but never knew how if you have some info i would apper.... where i am i see coyotes dead all over the road atleast one every other day

Re: 'Bout that time of year...............

Posted: October 19th, 2004, 12:49 pm
by Duck Me Runnin
Thanks,Mocraig,I missed it the first time.

Some day,I might even understand it. Image

Re: 'Bout that time of year...............

Posted: November 6th, 2004, 9:26 pm
by coyotewhacker
Coyotes are fairly simple to hunt. Hunt in full camo to conceal yourself and any movement you might make, set up downwind of where you expect them to come from, start calling with a mouth call or electronic call and when the hungry coyote comes in, shoot same with any available firearm. It ain't rocket science, but there are certain tricks to the trade that lead to a better success rate.
Go to a website called www.coyotegods.com and look around.
I stress LOOK AROUND....these boys are big time serious coyote hunters and make the CCGC look like Sunday school teachers if you ask a dumb question. If you have any specific questions, PM me and I will try to be of some help.
Coyotes have an incredible learning curve.....if you get a shot, make sure you kill the critter. If you miss, you have educated another one that will be almost impossible to call in again. Good luck.
CW