Inauguration

[TobyfromMO]

As I’m sure most of you are sitting at home today in support and celebration of your president elect I sit here, at work. I plan to participate in the celebration with an inaugurating bowel movement. I fully intend on leaving Mr. Obama floating for the next guy to witness him in all his glory.

[Warmouth]

They've sure been going on about it all weekend. I don't remember there ever being this much to do over any othher inauguration.

[LadyAngler]

The chosen one will be anointed today. Show some R-E-S-P-E-C-T.

[hunting170]

I`m waiting for the Soul Train dance line to break out. I can`t wait to see Joe Biden`s moves.

[Rafe Hollister]

170,

Go to Youtube and search "Joe Biden Villages" to check out his moves.

[TobyfromMO]

Batten down the hatches…it’s gonna be a rough ride.

Though most of you won’t even know you’re being screwed with most all Hollywood blabber mouths, daily talk shows and main stream media being socialistic, liberal, tree hugging, phuck sticks. How do we dare hear about the relevant facts. We’re in for four years of Obama petting puppies.

[PoisonSnake]

Yesterday may have been one of the lowest days in media/politics in US history. It was really hard for me to stomach. Then, on every basic channel there was some type of event related to the inauguration. I don't know boys. I just don't know.

[RB]

You haven't seen anything yet. Got this in an email

This sucks!!
> It has already started...
> Ammunition Accountability Legislation
>
> Remember how Obama said that he wasn't going to take your guns? Well,
> it seems that his allies in the anti-gun world have no problem with
> taking your ammo!
>
> The bill that is being pushed in 18 states (including Illinois and
> Indiana) requires all ammunition to be encoded by the manufacture a
> data base of all ammunition sales. So they will know how much you buy
> and what calibers.
> Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless the
> ammunition is coded.
>
> Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1,
> 2011. (Including hand loaded ammo.) They will also charge a .05 cent
> tax on every round so every box of ammo you buy will go up at least
> $2.50 or more!
>
> If they can deprive you of ammo they do not need to take your gun!
>
> This legislation is currently pending in 18 states:
> Alabama, Arizona , California , Connecticut , Hawaii , Illinois , Indiana
,
> Kentucky, Maryland , Mississippi , Missouri , New Jersey , New York ,
> Pennsylvania, Rhode Island , South Carolina , Tennessee , and Washington .
>
> Send to your friends in these states AND fight to dissolve this BILL!!
>
> To find more about the anti-gun group that is sponsoring this
> legislation and the specific legislation for each state, go to:
> http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm

[TobyfromMO]

RB...In my opinion this legislation will go nowhere…at least anywhere quickly. This bill has already been reviewed & rejected in the Missouri legislature…a few times. I’ve tried to keep tabs on this but its tough finding facts. This is basically an independent business venture turned political when the ammo manufactures didn’t voluntarily find interest in the idea and purchase the concept. This does nothing but put money in the pockets of the guys who patented it. All the “pro-gun” lobbyist and law makers I’ve spoken with are not worried about it…yet. They say this bill has been rejected by every state that has reviewed it. They say it is as baseless as gun control…it only hurts the honest law abiding citizen, i.e. criminals would never shoot a coded bullet. Not to mention…this bill assumes our government/law agencies are disciplined enough to actually collect, organize & track coded information if…..IF….they can recover it from a crime scene.

That said….below I’ve cut and pasted some info from a thread running on missouricarry.com if your interested.



http://www.seattleweekly.com/2008-03-05 ... ullets.php

From the above article.
Quote:
Mace and Ford spent four and a half years and about $200,000 securing the patent for their ammunition tracking system. But once that patent was in place and they had formed a company, the unambiguously named Ammunition Coding System, to market the product, they couldn't find a manufacturer willing to consider stamping their bullets. So they focused their efforts on convincing lawmakers that coded ammunition could be a crucial crime-solving tool.

To this end, Ammunition Coding hired Briahna Taylor, a lobbyist with Gordon, Thomas, Honeywell's Tacoma-based government affairs office. With Taylor's help, they began pushing for ammunition coding legislation on the state level. Taylor quickly launched a Web site, ammunitionaccountability.com, and bills were introduced in 12 states, including Washington

Quote:
Richard O'Neill, president of the Seattle Police Officers' Guild, says incidents like the police shooting that inspired Ammunition Coding are rare, and he's doubtful it would significantly benefit crime solving. Matching evidence at a crime scene to a database never goes as smoothly as television law-enforcement dramas would suggest, he claims.

"We already find that gun laws don't do a whole lot there because a lot of your suspects aren't people who follow all the laws," O'Neill says. He expects the same thing to happen with ammunition if serialization is legally mandated—a new black market in unregistered serial numbers and stolen bullets.


There’s a per round royalty their company plans to charge for this. Nothing like succeeding in the marketplace by having the .gov force your product on the consumer, whether they want it or not. Seriously, these guys are hoping to get state legislatures to basically pass a tax on ammunition that gets passed on to them.


The company selling the technology.
http://www.ammocoding.com/

The legislation site.
http://www.ammunitionaccountability.org/

The above are both owned by the same people but do not have links to each other on the respective sites.

http://www.jbs.org/index.php/self-defen ... -blog/4350

http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2008/02 ... ntability/

NRANews.com Interview with Russ Ford of Ammunition Coding Systems at the bottom of the page from the link below. It's about 45 minutes long, so pop some popcorn and bring your favorite beverage.

http://www.nraila.org//Issues/FactSheet ... spx?ID=227

In my opinion, Russ Ford sounds like a real tool with no answers to the basic manufacturing process.

Winchester, Federal, and Remington have said it won't work and would bankrupt them.

These are PDF's of letters written in opposition to ammo marking if you need any crib notes for letters yo your state officials.

NRA/ILA letter of opposition to the Connecticut legislature.
http://tinyurl.com/8f98gx
Nssf letter.
http://tinyurl.com/97bvm8
SAAMI letter.
http://tinyurl.com/8nrmsc

Most people are more outraged over the tax/record keeping on new ammo.
I'm more worried about reloading/cartridge collectors.
There are NO exceptions for collectors, which means those rare Little Big Horn cases or WWII souvenirs would have to be turned in, destroyed or who knows what; but you can't keep them.

[Tigerhaze]

I wouldn't be suprised if some wacko Dems like Schumer and Feinstein latch onto this, but I think we need to worry more about the more "reasonable" legislation.

First they will start by reinstating Clinton's Assault Weapon and High Capacity Magazine ban that the evil Bush and Republican Congress so venemously repealed.

Then they will start on limitations on gun shows and auctions that don't do background checks. Then they will look at limiting purchases by the month.

By the time they get to ID cards/registration, handgun bans, and such the Obama puppies will be so enthralled they won't even realize what damage is being done to our liberties.

I have been purchasing my surplus military weapons as soon as I heard Obama was elected because this stuff is coming. Just look at the regulations in Illinois (that Obama agrees with).

Of considerable concern is the nomination of Eric Holder for AG. He was a Federal attorney (I believe the deputy AG) in the Justice Dept under Clinton, and oversaw the background check program that had so many problems during Clinton's tenure. He also prepared a brief to the Supreme Court in the recent D.C. gun case advocating the 2nd Amendment is a collective right and not an individual one. For those on here that are plotically active, I would suggest writing/calling/e-mailing your Republican senators and urging them to reject (or at least question) Holder's nomination. I did so with Kit Bond yesterday.